Thursday, March 03, 2011

A Complete Dismantling of the "Pre-Wrath" Rapture Doctrine

If you knew nothing else about the "pre-wrath" rapture but that they teach willful disobedience, you know enough to reject it outright. The pre-wrath teachers teach you that there is no reason to watch for the Lord's return today. That fact, in and of itself kills the "pre-wrath" rapture idea, it is dead on arrival. The Lord stressed repeatedly, watch, watch WATCH for my return. The pre-wrath teacher is given no leave anywhere to begin watching whenever they feel like it, or when their doctrine prescribes for them to start watching. When a person in authority gives you a command with no preconditions, like "watch" that means now, not tomorrow, not the next day, not a mid-trib, not near the end of the trib, not post-trib...NOW. The pre-wrath teachers and preachers do not watch now and they teach others that it is foolishness to do so.

So, at best the pre-wrath doctrine teaches willful disobedience, they know they were commanded to watch...now, and they refuse to do so. At worst, the pre-wrath doctrine teaches believers to commit the unpardonable sin. What is the unpardonable sin? Its attributing the acts of the Holy Spirit to Satan (Mark 3, Matt 12). How do the pre-wrath teachers commit the unpardonable sin? They teach the "wrath of Satan" doctrine, attributing the opening and operation of the seals in Rev 6 to Satan. Remember, no one in heaven, on earth or below the earth was found worthy to open the seals except Christ alone. And yet the pre-wrath teachers tell us that the seals are "Satan's wrath?" Nowhere in the bible will you find a single shred of evidence that links Satan full of wrath and the opening of the seals...nowhere, period.

As if that were not enough, we know for a fact that in seals 1-4 the riders of the horses were empowered, by the Lord (who opened the Seals? ONE was found worthy..). The first 4 seals include at a minimum 1.5 Billion people being put to death by sword, famine, plague and the beasts of the earth. Here, again, not only do the per-wrath teachers attribute the impact of these seals to the working of Satan, the compound their sin by denying the Lord's purpose in opening the seals. They tell us that seals 1-5 are not the Lord's wrath. Really? Not His wrath? Please, I challenge any pre-wrath teacher to find a single scripture in the bible to prove that the death, famine and plague we find in seals 2,3,4 are not the Lord's wrath. I can tell you that they cannot produce a single scripture, not one. 2-3 witnesses to verify truth in the bible right? Where are their witnesses? They have not one....

There are witnesses however that prove that death, famine and plague ARE the Lord's wrath:

Ezekiel 6:11“‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Strike your hands together and stamp your feet and cry out “Alas!” because of all the wicked and detestable practices of the house of Israel, for they will fall by the sword, famine and plague. 12He that is far away will die of the plague, and he that is near will fall by the sword, and he that survives and is spared will die of famine. So will I spend my wrath upon them.

Job 19:29 you should fear the sword yourselves; for wrath will bring punishment by the sword, and then you will know that there is judgment."

Ezekiel 14:19

"Or if I send a plague into that land and pour out my wrath upon it
through bloodshed, killing its men and their animals,

Please, lets let the bible interpret the bible shall we? And let the witnesses that the pre-wrath teachers do not have come forth to defend them from the biblical witnesses that come forth to accuse them!

The bible clearly states that the sword, the plague and famine ARE the wrath of God, and without witnesses what would the pre-wrath teachers have us believe 1.5 BILLION people dead at the hand of the Lord is exactly? If its not His wrath, then what is it? A friendly conversation? A slight nudge? A tap on the shoulder and a kind whisper in the ear? 1.5 BILLION DEAD....let it sink in.....let the willfull disobedience and the unpardonable sin they commit sink in...

and we have not finished yet..

Last night the Lord asked me a question about the "pre-wrath" teachers claim that the wrath of God does not start until seal 6 found in Revelation 6. He asked me:


who said this? (Rev 6)--->16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?


Did Jesus say "Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb?" NO, He did not.

Did any of the prophets say "Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb?" NO, they did not.

Did any of the apostles say " "Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb?" NO, they did not.

Did any member of the church from highest to the lowest say "Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb?" NO, they did not.

Then who DID say "Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb?" The unbeliever, the Christ rejecting man are those who are exclaiming that the wrath of the Lamb is upon them. And the pre-wrath teacher is trying to convince us that the words of those who have rejected Christ can be relied on to explain God's plan to us? That assertion is ridiculous and many many illustrations from the bible stand in testimony against it. For example:

Satan quoted the bible by verse to Jesus during the temptation in the desert. Are we to use Satan's words as a benchmark to interpret what the Lord's message to us is during the temptation? No, that would be ridiculous, just as the pre-wrath explanation that the words of Christ rejecting men hiding in caves from the face of the Lord can explain to us what the Lord's message to us is in Revelation or anywhere else in the bible.

How about the parable of the foolish rich man in Luke 12:16-21? The foolish rich man spoke from his mouth all kinds of wonderful plans for himself. Are we to take the foolish rich man's words as fact to explain to ourselves the Lord's Word anywhere else in the bible? Again, that thought is ridiculous. Those who are hiding in the rocks from the face of the Lord are fools, so explain to me why exactly we should take their word as though it was the Word of God that the wrath of God starts then? WHO said the wrath of God was upon them?????? Would you say that the Christ rejecting fools in the caves misjudged our Lord's plan just a bit? <--That would be the understatement of the ages.....And according to the pre-wrath teachers, preachers, and believers we are to base our understanding of the book of Revelation on the words of Christ rejecting fools hiding in caves? Really? That's what they are trying to sell you....That idea is at the very heart of their doctrine. A doctrine that has more holes in it than swiss cheese.

The doctrine of devils known as the pre-wrath rapture now stands exposed, and destroyed. But why stop destroying their doctrine while it is a flaming wreck, lets shoot for their doctrine in ashes.

So far, we have laid out the facts that at a minimum, the pre-wrath teacher and believer choose to wilfully disobey the Lord's command to watch now, today for His return. At the worst, those who attribute the working of the Holy Spirit to Satan are guilty of the unpardonable sin. In addition, their centerpiece argument that the wrath of God begins at seal 6 has been completely debunked by the question: "who is saying that the wrath of God has come?" Jesus did not say that, those who reject Jesus said that....

According to the pre-wrath rapture advocates, the church escapes what, 10% of the horrors of Revelation? 15%? 20%? How much of the Lords initiated pain on this world are they telling us we will have to dodge in the days ahead and does it fit with what Jesus tells us in Matt 24 and Luke 17? Did Noah experience any physical tribulation during his escape into the ark? Any? No, none, thats a 100% escape, which also means Noah escaped ALL....How about Lot, how many fiery embers landed on Lot? None, again, thats a 100% escape, which also means Lot ecaped ALL. The pre-wrath teachers tell us that we the beloved bride of Christ are going to go through a hell on earth delivered by our Lords own hands. That's a great way to start out an eternal union isn't it? Isn't that how all bride and groom start their lifelong relationship? The bride does everything she can to win the heart of the groom and in return the groom submits the bride to hell on earth and then they get married?. Again, that is what the pre-wrath crowd is selling you...... Is that what Noah and Lot experienced? How much hell on earth did Noah endure before Noah entered the ark? Zero. How much hell on earth did Lot endure as he was walking out of Sodom? Zero. As it was in the days of Noah and Lot, so too shall it be at the coming of the Son of Man. What part of "escape all" don't these people understand? What does Luke 21:34-36 say? It says pray that you may be counted worthy to escape ALL of what's about to happen. All? Yes, all. What does all mean? How silly do we have to get with these questions to break through the satanic denial leveled against the pre-flood, pre-tribulation, pre-fire and brimstone, pre-wrath, pre-vengeance, pre-judgement rapture/escape from all?

The pre-wrath rapture has been sunk by multiple gaping holes below the waterline of their arguments. How do they defend their willful disobedience and satanic denial of the Lord's purpose in opening the seals? They deny these things the same way the Christ rejecting men hiding themselves in the caves denied that the war, the death, the famine, the plague were all judgements on a disobedient Christ rejecting world and it is only when their last lie and denial, their hidden caves are falling in on their heads that they will finally acknowledge that Jesus is Lord, and their lies and denials are at an end.

grace and peace