We have a pole shift coming and the people of the earth try to hide in rocks to hide from the wrath of the Lamb. Why not be on His good side before He gets here? And speaking of hiding in the rocks, this is another proof that debunks the 'pre-wrath' rapture that is not pre-wrath at all. How is their theory debunked?
Rev 6:12I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, 13and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as late figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. 14The sky receded like a scroll, rolling up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.
15Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and every free man hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?”
Look at the description above, it looks like the Lord pretty much covered everybody doesn't it? If all mankind is hiding in caved and among the rocks of the mountains, where are the righteous? They certainly are not hiding among the rocks, why would they be? So where are they? Here's a hint, we are reading Revelation 6, try Revelation 5:
Rev 5:9And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
The elders speak to us of a group in heaven that 1. is redeemed (that means they are not angels) and 2. is out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation.
Do the numbers on 'every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation' how many people does that work out to? Its alot of people and how did these redeemed and rewarded people get into heaven? Inquiry minds want to know! The pre-wrath believers you know refuse to answer this question. Instead of answering the question they will try to redirect you, obfuscate, delay and any other tactic they can think of besides answering the simple question. They refuse to answer the question because to answer the question they rip a gaping hole open in their arguments and that they cannot tolerate.
In Revelation 6 seal 6, the righteous are nowhere in sight. Since the Jewish believers are not sealed until Revelation 7 they are not in sight either. Why the righteous are not in sight is answered both in Rev 5 and Rev 4.
In Rev 4 we see a door open in heaven, why open a door in heaven if nobody is coming in or out? Doors are used for a reason, what is the purpose of a door? The answer to this question also rips a wide gash along the waterline of the pre-wrath argument. Doors are opened for people to go in and out.
So back to our discussion of Rev 5 now, we asked how did redeemed men get into heaven in Rev 5? The 'pre-wrath' crowd has no answer for this. We, using the Bible have a simple straightforward answer: the door in Rev 4. Notice in Rev 4 that we see the elders as rewarded men: " 10The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, 11Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."
In Rev 4 we see crowns on their head=rewarded, in Rev 5 we see that they are redeemed men. And in both chapters we see the scene in heaven. I cannot think of a more vexing problem for the 'pre-wrath' or post-trib teachers. To add to their misery we solidify our position with Luke 21:36 and Rev 3:10 like this:
Can we reasonably say that if redeemed and rewarded men are in heaven in Rev 4-5, that they 'escaped all" (Luke 21:36) the tribulation we read about in the rest of the book of Revelation? The answer is a resounding YES
Can we reasonable say that if redeemed and rewarded men are in heaven in Rev 4-5, they have been "kept from the hour of trial" (Rev 3:10). A resounding YES again.
And what we have just seen is the Bible harmonizing with itself from Rev 3-6 without any theological acrobatics or verbal gymnastics. We did not need a 50 page thesis to prove that one sentence in scripture didn't really mean what is clearly says at face value. No, we have a straightforward reading and harmonization of the scripture that even a child could understand which in itself is another proof!
|... I tell you the truth, anyone who doesn't receive the Kingdom|
of God like a child will never enter it."
And in order to fully sink the dagger into the argument used against us let us examine Matt 24 here:
29“Immediately after the distress of those days
“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’c
30“At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
First what they love to tell us is "after the tribulation of those days" and they stop there and turn into a broken record. Well, what about after the tribulation of those days, what is it they claim happens? They claim that this:
Matt 24:31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
is equivalent to this:
1 Thess 4 16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18Therefore encourage each other with these words.
A quick comparison of the two passages of scripture leave their argument seriously wanting. Lets get started:
Do you see the voice of the archangel in Matt 24:31? I don't
Do you see the trump of God (not an ordinary trumpet it is the trump of GOD) in Matt 24:31? I don't
Do you see anyone being "caught up" in Matt 24:31? I don't, I see them being gathered by angels..
So let me ask you, if NOTHING matches, I mean nothing then why do they equate the two?
The dead animals and everything else going on around us are warnings. The warning is to get us to watch and if we are not ready get ready. We were told to be watching for the coming of the Lord. This is another fatal flaw in the arguments of the pre-wrath and post-trib camps. They refuse to watch for the arrival of the Lord because their doctrine tells them he cannot arrive until x,y and z happen. The Lord commanded us to watch period, not watch when, not watch if, watch PERIOD
Mark 13:35“Therefore keep watch because you do not know when the owner of the house will come back—whether in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or at dawn. 36If he comes suddenly, do not let him find you sleeping. 37What I say to you, I say to everyone: ‘Watch!’”
Don't take my word for anything, listen to the wise virgins in Matt 25. Which virgins were able to enter the "door" (remember the discussion of Rev 4 above?) with the Bridegroom?
Matt 25:10“But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.
11“Later the others also came. ‘Sir! Sir!’ they said. ‘Open the door for us!’
12“But he replied, ‘I tell you the truth, I don’t know you.’
13“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.
What do the virgins counsel you to do? Be ready, keep watch. When? NOWWWWWWWW
And when the scoffers come and tell you not to bother watching close your eyes and ears to them. Forget what men say, remember the counsel of the Lord. What does the Word say?
grace and peace