Our Coming Lot Experience

In Matt 24, and Luke 17 we are told that the coming of the Son of man will be exactly like the days of Noah and Lot. When the Lord says it, he means it. We can be sure that there is a 100% chance, what is coming will be exactly like the days of Noah and Lot...exactly. We will look back on what happens and say "Blessed be your name Lord, for once again fulfilling your word just as you always have." It's a sure bet.

With all the uncertainty around what the escape is, or is not, don't you think we should take a really close look at exactly what happened with Noah and Lot? I mean, the Lord gave us two examples, not one, to figure out what it is we should be looking for in the future. With these two examples, we are also able to cross reference the commonalities, to know for sure, exactly what's going to happen. Since we know that the coming of the Son of man will be just like both the days of Noah, and Lot, that means this coming event matches up with both, which means whatever conclusions we come to, those conclusion must match both stories..Noah AND Lot, remember that.

So we look at the story of Noah, and we consider this idea that people tell us about that Noah was to go into the ark, and the bible says he waited 7 days for the rain of the flood to start, so people automatically say "hey, see! Noah sat there for 7 days, and not until after the 7 days did the flood come." Yea? So? Where was Noah during those 7 days? He was in the ark. Not only do we know that Noah was in the ark, we know it was because of the flood that Noah entered the ark. Not only do we know that Noah was in the ark, did not tread water for a second, we also know that the story of Noah must match the story of Lot as it applies to the coming of the Son of man in our near future.

Do we see anything about Lot waiting for 7 days before leaving Sodom? No, we don't. What do we see?

Gen 19:15 And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city. 16 And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the LORD being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city. 17 And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.

23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar. 24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; 25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

What do we see in both stories? Above we see that not until Lot entered the safe place, known as Zoar, did the Lord rain fire and brimstone. What do we see with Noah? Not until Noah was safely in the ark did the Lord rain the floodwaters on the earth. The same idea in both stories so you can be absolutely sure that not until we are taken to a safe place will one drop of rain, or one ember of fire and brimstone fall. As it was, so shall it be. Noah escaped all the floodwaters. Lot escaped all the fire and brimstone, we shall escape all of what's about to happen. That's verbatim out of the word of God. Ask a post-tribber or a pre-wrath teacher how much water Noah had to tread. Ask them how many burn spots Lot had on him as he walked out of Sodom. Then watch how quickly they try to change the subject.

I actually read some guy who tried to argue that Luke 21:36 has nothing to do with the rapture. At that point I say, call it whatever you want. Make them explain to you how Noah and Lot escaped all, those who are counted worthy are promised an escape from all in Luke 21:36, yet somehow men are arguing that there is no escape from all that's about to happen?

What are "all these things" that we are to pray to escape? Well, look at what Jesus said in Luke 21. He lays out an entire panorama of the tribulation period.

Luke 21:10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: 11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake. 13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony. 14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer: 15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. 16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. 17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake. 18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish. 19 In your patience possess ye your souls.
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; 30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. 31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. 32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. 33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

He tells us everything that's going to happen, then when he is done telling us what's going to happen, he tells us to pray we may be counted worthy to escape all of it.

The Lord tells us that the coming of the son of man will be just like the days of Noah and Lot. We are told that an event is coming where the Lord comes down with a shout and in the blink of an eye we are caught up into the clouds with Jesus. We know that an escape from all is coming. We can reasonably expect that the number of people who are counted worthy to escape will mirror the amount of people who make it through the narrow gate that leads to life, which is, few (Matt 7:14).

Here's something the Lord pointed out to me recently. If the coming of the Son of man is to be like the days of Noah and Lot, and the books of Daniel and Revelation work closely together to paint a picture for us of what's going to happen during the time of Jacob's trouble/tribulation period/Daniel's 70th week, then should'nt we see something in either the book of Daniel, or the book of Revelation that closely resembles the events in Noah and Lot's day? Yes, you should, but here's a question for you, can you find anything in the book of Daniel that even remotely relates to the days of Noah and Lot? No, you can't. Look at the book of Revelation. Ask yourself, if the mid-trib, pre-wrath, post-trib teachers are right, should'nt we see some kind of Noah and Lot event in the book of Revelation that proves their point relating to the coming of the Son of man? You should see that, but you don't see that.

Look for instance at the opening of the seals in Rev 6. It's become popular these days to tell us that we are going to eat all the seals right up through the 6th seal, then be raptured. Well, if they want to prove that, don't they have to line it up with the stories of Noah and Lot? Don't they have to show us being persecuted by the anti-christ, being chased down by death and hell on earth, and being killed off by famine and the beasts of the earth lines up with the stories of Noah and Lot? Yea, they do have to prove that, and they can't. They can't come even remotely close to proving that. These men tell us that we are the ones under the alter who were slain for the word of God and their testimony. I'll entertain their opinions as soon as they can prove that being slain for my testimony lines up with the experiences of Noah and Lot.

The stories of Noah and Lot must be found somewhere in the end times scenario because Jesus clearly tells us that the coming of the Son of man, will be just like the days of Noah and Lot. What possible scenario allows all the puzzle pieces to fit without leaving pieces of the puzzle out, or trying to jam pieces into the puzzle that don't fit? I'll tell you the scenario:

During a time of eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, during a time before the flood arrives, during a time before the fire and brimstone rains down, we are taken into the ark, we are led out of the city, we are told to "come up here," through an open door illustrated in Matt 25 in the parable of the virgins, and Rev 4 immediately after Jesus speaks specifically to the churches we are enabled to escape all thats about to happen. Would that explain redeemed and rewarded men in heaven (not on earth) in Rev 4 and 5 before the seals are opened? Yea, it would explain that perfectly. Would it explain how those not destined for wrath, never incur the wrath of God? Yes it would. Would it verify the fact that the sword and famine are expressions of the wrath of God as proven in Ezekiel and other places?

Ezekiel 6:12 "He who is far off will die by the plague,
... and he that is near shall fall by the sword; and he that remaineth and is besieged shall die by the famine: thus will I accomplish my wrath upon them.

Yep, that would fit perfectly. Anti-christ, sword and famine are the first seals to be opened. Use the bible to interpret the bible...

This world is staring at the sword and famine right now. It's in the lame stream media headlines almost every day now. The anti-christ is rising, the signs are everywhere. Seals 1,2,3 are in plain sight now, although at a short distance away. How much time will elapse before that short distance is closed and the seals are opened? The Spirit is speaking to the churches today, he who has ears to hear should be listening to what the Spirit says. Read Rev 2-3.

The view I see as a watchman on the wall is this: By the end of March something big is going to happen. By this summer, people on this earth will think that the gates of hell have opened. Sometime over the next month or two or three there will be food shortages. This is not prophesy, this is analysis. Jesus told us to watch over and over and over again. What's the purpose of watching? To see and understand...to be ready..to prepare in advance for what you see coming from your place on the wall.

What can you do to prepare? You can pray. You can purge your heart and mind from everything and anything that hinders your walk with the Master. You can do things that you know please him today. As an act of your will, you can forcefully engage your will to keep your eyes on Jesus and not on the storm so you too can walk on the water like Peter did. In a time of unprecedented evil and wickedness, our Lord's grace abounds more. Do you think the Lord is sitting back in an armchair watching "american idol" while all hell breaks loose on earth? Not a chance. He knows how to spare his people from temptations. He knows how to feed his people in a desert. He knows how to absolutely, utterly, completely destroy the nations of the world and all its satanic armies without breaking a sweat. Our God is not worried about what's coming. There's not a single event, that will happen in any minute of any day that our God has not already forseen and planned for. Who is in control, who has dominion, who sits above all principalities and powers with a name above any other name? Our Lord Jesus who loved us and died for us that we might not suffer his wrath.

Our Lord is our one stop shopping source for everything. If you have a need, he is the source of every good thing in this world and the world to come. Your faith is everything. Engage it today, build it today, ask the Lord for more faith today. Faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains, what can great faith do? The enemy comes to kill steal and destroy and the first thing he is after is your faith. If he can take that from you he has taken everything from you. Please pray for all the brothers, for my family and for me, that we may escape all that is coming and stand before the Son of man. Be assured that I am praying for you. You are dearly loved. grace and peace.

Making Nonsense Out of Noah

The evidence just keeps mounting that this year may be the last pre-flood year this earth sees. As we look at what is written in the word of God, we all understand that everything has to "fit." We cannot force things to go where we want them to, either they fit in the overall context or they do not. Here's where we come to men making nonsense out of the story of Noah.

First, throw out any preconceived notions men have given you relating to "pre-trib, mid-trib, pre-wrath, post-trib" and focus on what the Lord is saying:

Luke 17:26 "And just as it happened in the days of Noah,
... "And just as it happened in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man:

Matthew 24:37 "For the coming of the Son of Man will be
... because just as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be when the Son of Man comes. ..."For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah.

Could the Lord be any more clear here? Just as it was in the days of Noah....exactly the same. So whatever theories men come up with, it has to fit the days of Noah....it must fit, or its nonsense.

The mid-trib, pre-wrath teachers make nonsense out of the story of Noah by changing the story around to say something to the effect that Noah entered the ark after 20-30 days of flooding, which means that he and his family were treading water outside the ark for more than half of the flood. Do you understand how ridiculous that is? It's beyond ridiculous, its pure fantasy.

The post-trib teacher tells you that Noah and his family were treading water during the entire flood, then went into the Ark after the flood was full, that is, after 40 days and nights of rain. Is that the story of Noah you read in Genesis 7? This point of view is also complete fantasy.

Call it whatever you want. Because of the waters of the flood, Noah went into the ark, that's fact, not fiction, and whatever theories men come up with, they better fit that fact.

Genesis 7: 6 And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth. 7 And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood

Luke 21:36 says there is an escape from ALL coming. Does that "fit" the story of Noah? Yes it does. Noah escaped the entire flood..all of it. Does it "fit" the story of Lot? Yes it does, Lot escape all the brimstone that fell on Sodom.

Ask any "pre-wrath" or "post-trib" believer to explain how much of the flood Noah endured or how much brimstone fell on Lot, and you shut them down before they can ever get started. It has to fit, all of it.....I have read and continue to read the theories put forth by these people, and they can never explain away Noah escaping all the flood, Lot escaping all the brimstone, and an escape from all promised in the future for those counted worthy of it.

Slight shift of gears here

What if you knew for sure that this year, 2009 was it? What if you knew, that 2009 was the last year of "eating and drinking, planting and building, marrying and giving in marriage?" What if you were sure of it, what would you do? What if you were sure that sometime later this year or early next year, the 7 years of Jacob's trouble was going to start? I think it would be wise to answer that question now, today. Look at what's hiding in plain sight all around you....the signs. They are everywhere. We are staring at the tribulation, its just ahead of us. Can't you feel it?

I can't guarantee you much, but I can guarantee you this: when the word of God tells you that something is going to happen a certain way, it's guaranteed to happen that way. So put yourself in Noah's shoes today, we are modern day "Noah's and Lot's." I did'nt say that, Jesus did. The coming of the son of man will be just like the days of Noah and Lot. Do not allow men to re-write the stories of Noah and Lot for you. If something did not happen in the stories of Noah and Lot, it won't happen during the coming of the Son of man either. If it did happen, it will happen again.

John 14:3
... "If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.

Matt 24:36 'And concerning that day and the hour no one hath known -- not even the messengers of the heavens -- except my Father only; 37 and as the days of Noah -- so shall be also the presence of the Son of Man; 38 for as they were, in the days before the flood, eating, and drinking, marrying, and giving in marriage, till the day Noah entered into the ark, 39 and they did not know till the flood came and took all away; so shall be also the presence of the Son of Man. 40 Then two men shall be in the field, the one is received, and the one is left; 41 two women shall be grinding in the mill, one is received, and one is left.

Use the bible to interpret the bible right? The people who tell us that this ^^ is not the escape have a real problem with this:

Luke 17:30 'According to these things it shall be, in the day the Son of Man is revealed; 31 in that day, he who shall be on the house top, and his vessels in the house, let him not come down to take them away; and he in the field, in like manner, let him not turn backward; 32 remember the wife of Lot. 33 Whoever may seek to save his life, shall lose it; and whoever may lose it, shall preserve it. 34 'I say to you, In that night, there shall be two men on one couch, the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left; 35 two women shall be grinding at the same place together, the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left; 36 two men shall be in the field, the one shall be taken, and the other left.' 37 And they answering say to him, 'Where, sir?' and he said to them, 'Where the body is, there will the eagles be gathered together.'

Was the Lord out of his mind when he wrote this ^^^? I mean, do we just gloss over it because its inconvenient to our pet theories? They asked the Lord where those who are taken are going, and what was the reply? 'Where the body is, there will the eagles be gathered together

Where the "body" is?
eagles?
"gathered together?"

Let's look closer:

Body as its used here is σωμα noun - nominative singular neutersoma so'-mah: the body (as a sound whole), used in a very wide application, literally or figuratively -- bodily, body, slave.

gather together/lead together as its used here: συναχθησονται verb - future passive indicative - third person sunago soon-ag'-o: to lead together, i.e. collect or convene; specially, to entertain (hospitably)

eagles: aetos ah-et-os': an eagle (from its wind-like flight) -- eagle.

Where the body is? Oh, like maybe the body of Christ? Which is the church? Where that is, that's where those in wind-like flight will be gathered/lead together hospitably? Flight? Oh, like, in the air kind of flight? Gosh, where have I seen that before?

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be ...
... Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.

So the peope who tell us that this is not the escape would have us believe that the wicked will be "received/taken" in a hospitable/entertaining kind of way? That's what the word sunago (soon-ag'-o) means....sorry guys, my imagination stretches, but not that far...

Is it possible that I am completely off base with all of this? It's possible, but if there is no escape from all that's about to happen, then I guess we should take a pencil out and erase Luke 21:36 from the bible. If the church is not kept from the hour of trial coming on the entire earth, then we need to erase Rev 3:10 as well. If we are going to go through half or more of the tribulation, then we need to get out a bigger eraser and edit the stories of Noah and Lot to make them "fit." If we are all destined to take the brunt of the tribulation on the chin, then there's alot that will have to be re-written in the bible, but you know, and I know, that's not going to happen.

Grace and peace