Tuesday, July 21, 2009

The Bible: A Book Full of Non-Sense? OSAS?

The doctrine of devils known as OSAS:once saved always saved makes many of the statements in the bible nonsense. Take this statement for example:

1 Timothy 4:16 Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers.

That statement ^^ is complete NONSENSE if you believe the OSAS teachers. Why? Paul is clearly linking WATCHING your LIFE and DOCTRINE with your SALVATION.

The OSAS teaching is that it does not matter one iota what your life and doctrine consist of after you have made your teary eyed 5 second "committment" to Jesus. Paul tells you that not only must you watch your life and doctrine closely, he also tells you to PERSIST/PERSEVERE in them. He also says this "if you do." Did you know that IF is a conditional word? "If "guarantees you nothing. "If" says you get something CONDITIONAL upon something you do, in this case its persevering in watching your life and doctrine closely.

Also notice who is told to "watch." YOU ARE. The bible does not instruct your hired hand "pastor" to watch your life and doctrine closely, he tells YOU to watch YOUR life and doctrine closely. Looks like the burden is off of your spiritual hired hand employees and back on you again doesn't it?

If the teachers of the OSAS doctrine of demons is correct, then the bible is full of all kinds of non-sense, and we know that CANNOT be the case right? How can the bible tell us that IF we persevere (also known as ABIDING) in watching our life and doctrine closely THEN you will save both yourself and your hearers?

Next point: save yourself? and your hearers? WHAT? Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers. Is the Holy Spirit telling us that YOU have a part to play in YOUR salvation and it was not a "done deal" 10 years ago during your touching little teary eyed "alter call" experience? Read it for yourself. YOU play a part in YOUR salvation or else the bible is NON-SENSE. If your doctrine conflicts with the clear, plain meanings of the words written in the bible then YOU not the bible are WRONG.

We are saved by grace, through faith. Salvation is a gift not of ourselves so no man can boast, however the church of babylon stops in its evaluation of being "saved" right there. Over and over again, FAITH, PERSEVERANCE, ABIDING "IN CHRIST" are indicated as requisite MANDATORIES for being "saved." How can salvation be a free gift and also you have to "do" something like "believe" and "abide" and "persevere" to take delivery of it? There are obviously 2 parts to the salvation deal. Part 1 is entering "in Christ"-that's the free gift, by grace through faith. The other part is ABIDING/remaining "in Christ." So..you have to enter "in Christ" which is the small gate of Matt 7:13-28, then you have to REMAIN THERE. Proofs?

Part 1:
Ephesians 2:8
... For by such grace you have been saved through faith.

Part 2-the bible is LOADED with verses for this one but lets start with this:

John 15 I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunesa so that it will be even more fruitful. 3You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4Remain in me, and I will remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.
5“I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be given you. 8This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples.
9“As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love. 10If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father’s commands and remain in his love. 11I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete. 12My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. 14You are my friends if you do what I command. 15I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. 16You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit—fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. 17This is my command: Love each other.

Perseverance is not a one time deal. Abiding is not a one time deal. Remaining is not a one time deal. Faith is not a one time deal. All of these are EVERYDAY deals. It could not be said any clearer than right here:

Hebrews 3:14 We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first.

What does "if" mean? What does "hold firmly" mean? What does "till the end" mean? Isn't it a bit ridiculous to have to even ask these questions? But we do have to ask because the men who would turn the grace of our God into uncontrollable lust would have you believe that to share "in Christ" all you have to do is "make a 5 second decision" during some "alter call", then its game over, you're as good as in heaven today! The Word of God clearly demolishes such arguments with words such as IF and "hold firmly" and "till the end" having the confidence we had at first.

2 Corinthians 10:5
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledgeof God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

Jude 1:4
... For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

Have you ever stopped to ask exactly WHO ARE these men who have "slipped in secretly" and changed the grace of our God into a license for immorality (carnal sin/lust)? What is this doctrine that CHANGES the GRACE of our God into a license for immorality? Are you reading that? Are you "getting it?" WHO ARE THESE MEN????, WHAT DO THEY TEACH?????

We know exactly who they are, they are the OSAS teachers and preachers. These men have to be somewhere but of course they are not in your church right? Oh no, never...anyone else's church but yours...and everyone else's "church" says the same thing as yours and the finger keeps pointing somewhere else, anywhere else but at you and your pastor, and your teachers. It's just like nobody admitting they enjoy pornography in America but its an 80 billion dollar a year business...because nobody looks at it....right....

I wasn't going to do another post today but the Holy Spirit was INSISTENT I put this one up. So here it is. grace and peace